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It seems that they are cooperating on security issues too.   There is an investigation going on in the UK that's been conducted so quietly,  it almost never makes the news; but it did recently.  It's led by someone I hadn't heard of, Elizabeth Dunham.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/jul/15/elizabeth-denham-data-protection-information-commissioner-facebook-cambridge-analytica

There is an overlap between what the special counsel is doing in the US and what Denham is doing in the UK, and what became clear last week is that there is a zone of convergence between the two. As Mueller continues to disentangle the web of relationships at the heart of the Trump campaign and laid out a detailed picture last week of the hacking of the Democratic National Committee and Hillary Clinton by Russian intelligence officers – including crucially, the theft of the campaign’s data analytics – Denham has been quietly carrying out a narrower but in some ways just as forensic investigation in almost as much secrecy.

I'm pretty sure at this point, Kerry, that Special Counsel Mueller has most of the necessary evidence needed for a money laundering conviction on Trump and other members of his family and campaign.  This article that you're quoting is interesting in that it points to Mueller seeking to understand all of the interrelationships of all the particular players, both foreign and domestic.  I suspect that it is part of a larger effort to understand how the Russians are waging cyber warfare to influence other countries' domestic politics and to develop ways to counter them.

Trump has to be very angry with the British and the Germans.  They are, no doubt, providing information to the FBI and American Intelligence that could put him into very serious legal trouble.  No doubt, he has to view them, and ultimately NATO, as the enemy.   

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There is even, the Observer has learned, an ongoing channel of communication between them. A source familiar with the FBI investigation revealed that the commissioner and her deputy spent last week with law enforcement agencies in the US including the FBI. And Denham’s deputy, James Dipple-Johnstone, confirmed to the Observer that “some of the systems linked to the investigation were accessed from IP addresses that resolve to Russia and other areas of the CIS [Commonwealth of Independent States]”.

It was a recent discovery, he said, but an explosive one, potential evidence of a direct link between the company at the heart of the Trump campaign – and files holding information of 220 million US voters – and the Russian government’s disinformation campaign. [/b]

If that link is established, it will be the effective smoking gun to explain a lot of cyber activity on how the Russians influenced the campaign.  I imagine the RNC is not going to be happy about this.  The other candidates trashed by Donald Trump will have to swallow the hard fact that Trump sandbagged them with the help of the Russians.  The Citizens United ruling was never meant to lead to something like this.
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I'm pretty sure at this point, Kerry, that Special Counsel Mueller has most of the necessary evidence needed for a money laundering conviction on Trump and other members of his family and campaign.  This article that you're quoting is interesting in that it points to Mueller seeking to understand all of the interrelationships of all the particular players, both foreign and domestic.  I suspect that it is part of a larger effort to understand how the Russians are waging cyber warfare to influence other countries' domestic politics and to develop ways to counter them.
What is known already is that Trump made millions of dollars in Panama by selling condos to drug dealers.  I'd call that money laundering.  I've no hint yet that Mueller has looked into the Panama affair. 

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Trump has to be very angry with the British and the Germans.  They are, no doubt, providing information to the FBI and American Intelligence that could put him into very serious legal trouble.  No doubt, he has to view them, and ultimately NATO, as the enemy.   
I wonder if he was trying suck to them in an effort to convince them he doesn't pose a danger to them when he said his mother was born in Scotland and his father in Germany?  Okay, his mother was born in Scotland; but his father most certainly was not born in Germany.   Why does he tell such obvious lies? 

Of course, Putin also lies a lot and almost no one calls him out on it.  Putin was being highly deceptive when he mentioned Bill Browder.  How could he possibly think Trump could decide   Browder should talk to Russian interrogators?  Browder is a British citizen and lives in the UK.   So why would he ask for Trump's help?  And why didn't Trump tell him Browder is a British citizen living in the UK?   I can believe Trump didn't know that, but surely Putin should have. 

[quote}If that link is established, it will be the effective smoking gun to explain a lot of cyber activity on how the Russians influenced the campaign.  I imagine the RNC is not going to be happy about this.  The other candidates trashed by Donald Trump will have to swallow the hard fact that Trump sandbagged them with the help of the Russians.  The Citizens United ruling was never meant to lead to something like this.  [/quote]We live in interesting times. 

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^^^It seems, Kerry, that the pace of the news is coming on so quickly that it is hard to internalize it all. 

I suspect that Mueller is, like a good card player, holding quietly a winning hand, waiting until the proper moment to make his mark.  Trump is twisting around, making poor plays, seeking to distract the other players and the watching public.  Trump, of course, is seeking to poison the public concerning the other players and especially Mueller.  How he will escape payment when the final cards are laid down seem to rest with how the public views how or whether the players cheated or not.

I think Mueller will have to clip Trump's attempts to falsify the meaning of the investigation.  I suppose he will have to prosecute Manifort with the idea of showing how the suspected money laundering of that defendant relates to the Russians . . .
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Re: Thoughts Regarding The Stories and Storytelling
« Reply #123 on: August 12, 2018, 09:16:31 pm »
I've now completed today the final confrontation part of my Mar a Lago fictional story involving my character Adrian "Mack" Stemple and the President, Donald Trump.  I suspect that I now have built into the story all the major psychological features involving Trump.  It has been quite a task.  Now I have to build the beginning sections and complete the rewrite, the actual process that has to be done to complete the final form of the short story.

I must say that at this point, Trump does not look good in this story.  I've shown very carefully how I believe he was traumatized by what he experienced growing up.  That pain that Trump will have experience will be disturbing to think about.  I've also tried to show how he is not worthy of sympathy because of how he's responded to that pain.  Trump is evil, clearly very evil, and how I've laid out the story will make it all too clear.

I've had Mack Stemple treat the President with compassion but I've done it in a way that could be understandable but may be too much for some people.  I've had my main character put Trump into a compromising situation and show how he likely deals with being compromised.  I also show some of the mental deterioration of the President in the form that I think most likely.  I hope to have this story done by the end of August.

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I've been asked  what my characters look like physically and if they are based on actual living persons.  I would be happy to answer this question.

Clive Edgar Fox, detective from Bozeman, Montana.  He is my oldest character.  I developed him during my junior high school days, some 52 years ago.  He is about 5 feet 9 inches tall; he is obese, a philosophical intellectual, dark hair, roundish face, and dark luminous eyes.  He appears in The River of No Return.  He is based upon an actual much respected person, my junior high school guidance counselor, Mr. Buley.  Mr. Buley's been dead for many years but you could say that a part of him still lives on.

Adrian "Mack" Stemple, psionic whose known address is in Lewistown, Montana.  He is based upon the actor Mark Harmon, not as he is today, but as he was back in the 1990s when the movie "The Presidio" came out.  He is physically much like Mark Harmon in his looks.  He is different in how he moves.  Whereas Mark Harmon is rigid as many Marines are in their bodies, my character's movement and physical deportment is smooth, characteristic of someone who is trained in the martial arts.  I've never brought up an old joke concerning this character, that he was Mark Harmon in disguise.  Perhaps I will do this someday in a story.

In fiction we always build upon what we know.  A writer may not explicitly base a character on a person, but it will always, most likely be a composite of a number of persons.  This is to be expected.  The writer exploits the fact that there are universal qualities that are to be found in all persons and will seek out those qualities that can be represented in stories.  Such is the craft of writing.
The humble, meek, merciful, just, pious and devout souls are everywhere of one religion; and when death has taken off the mask, they will know one another though the divers liveries they wear here make them strangers.
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Re: Thoughts Regarding The Stories and Storytelling
« Reply #124 on: August 21, 2018, 09:45:50 pm »
^^^It is amazing how so much drama exists in the Trump reality show that we have going on in politics right now.

(Just a short note here given that I'm busy hereabouts with things . . . )

I've still not completed my Mar a Lago story.  I think I'm holding back because we seem to have a historical turning point occurring in the convictions of Paul Manifort and Michael Cohen.  I think we shall see some interesting psychological behavior of the President while he's under severe stress.  I'm curious how authoritarian and violent he shall become under these new conditions of stress.

I'm going to hold off on the story or write it in a way to accommodate new psychological information about the man.  I will be able to add two more sections to the story and still keep it reasonably short.  Perhaps, now we will see a more short-tempered public Trump who is less inclined to conceal the temper that he is known for.  It would be good to have public doses of the Trump anger now.  I think it would be very revealing of the man.  I wonder, though, if episodes of Trump's anger would be harmful to his political base.  They still practically worship him . . .
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Re: Thoughts Regarding The Stories and Storytelling
« Reply #125 on: August 21, 2018, 10:28:10 pm »
^ Yes, it does seem like a turning point.  It's probably safe to switch from the Act II thread over to Act III.   

Any predictions about how Donald will act?  We may see some tantrums from time to time; but he may not have the energy or courage to do much real ranting.   I expect a gloomier Donald, depressed and playing for sympathy.  He may adopt a pathetic pose. 

It would not surprise me if he resigns, citing some illness as his reason, and it could be a real illness. 

He is in fear now.  He reacted to the convictions in the Manafort case but remained silent about the Cohen plea.  I think he's afraid to say too much about it, in court or out.  He admitted he's afraid of a "perjury trap" if he gave evidence under oath. How can you be convicted of perjury if you tell the truth?    If he's in fear now and his emotional state becomes worse under the additional stress, the Scientology model predicts he'll go into grief.   That should get him sympathy. 

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Re: Thoughts Regarding The Stories and Storytelling
« Reply #126 on: August 22, 2018, 07:59:52 am »
^ Yes, it does seem like a turning point.  It's probably safe to switch from the Act II thread over to Act III.

I agree, Kerry.  Now's the time.  I'm sure we've crossed the threshhold of something different.   

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Any predictions about how Donald will act?  We may see some tantrums from time to time; but he may not have the energy or courage to do much real ranting.   I expect a gloomier Donald, depressed and playing for sympathy.  He may adopt a pathetic pose.

I would tend to predict that Donald will act in the way that you've stated.  I imagine that the stress will tire him out.  He is elderly and of limited physical energy.  He has far less energy than people think, I believe.  Playing for sympathy would be just one more way to appeal to his base as his words depreciate more and more in value.

In a moment in the story I'm working on, Trump mutters during emotional withdrawal, "Why can't people leave me alone?"  At that moment he is no longer posing as the angry tough he wants himself to be.

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It would not surprise me if he resigns, citing some illness as his reason, and it could be a real illness.

This is quite possible.  Given Trump's gargantuan sexual appetites, after sleeping with thousands of women (if we take seriously the claim that he had a different woman in his bed each night during the 1970s), he could have picked up a number of STDs that could be affecting him mentally.  He, of course, could have a drug addiction.  He could be taking "uppers and downers" again to control his stress and to gain energy.   

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He is in fear now.  He reacted to the convictions in the Manafort case but remained silent about the Cohen plea.  I think he's afraid to say too much about it, in court or out.  He admitted he's afraid of a "perjury trap" if he gave evidence under oath. How can you be convicted of perjury if you tell the truth?    If he's in fear now and his emotional state becomes worse under the additional stress, the Scientology model predicts he'll go into grief.   That should get him sympathy. 

That sounds very logical.  I should think that behind all his anger in the beginning was his grief.  For a lifetime, he's escaped the grief by his pose and actions of being angry and tough.  The stress may very well tire him out and empty out all of the postures he's used to escape himself, or rather the fundamental lack of himself as his own person.

In the writing of the story, I wondered if Trump could be depicted as recognizing that he's the ultimate poor man, a person who never became somebody, that is to say, himself.  I wonder if it's possible that that may be depicted.  It all seems to hinge on how he deals with his stress.
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Re: Thoughts Regarding The Stories and Storytelling
« Reply #127 on: August 28, 2018, 10:52:14 pm »
I've decided to complete my Mar a Lago story at this point.  The events surrounding Trump are becoming even more chaotic and it will be much more difficult to maintain the necessary story verisimilitude given how Trump is behaving and what he could do as a bolt out of the blue to the entire country.

I will premise the story as occurring in July 2018 at Lake Union and Mar a Lago.  I've built a lot of psychological detail into the story and have put a number of religious themes to the forefront given Love God Only is a religious site.

I will have Trump articulate the reason for his actions.  I will show that he is a victim of great inward trauma as subjected by his cold (and criminal) father.  I will also show that Trump is not a sympathetic person.  He treats people coldly or indifferently if he feels they are enemies or that they are of no use to him.  He has a cruel streak and treats those in his power viciously.  The picture is not good.  There is even more to this but I will leave to the time when I post the story.

I have a suspicion that after September it may be difficult to write a story about Trump.  So much will be going on it will be hard to figure out what is happening and when.  There is also the danger that Trump may become even more lawless.  It will be a time of great worry for the country.  We will need to pray for it and the world.
 
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Re: Thoughts Regarding The Stories and Storytelling
« Reply #128 on: August 29, 2018, 08:09:26 pm »
I have a suspicion that after September it may be difficult to write a story about Trump.  So much will be going on it will be hard to figure out what is happening and when.  There is also the danger that Trump may become even more lawless.  It will be a time of great worry for the country.  We will need to pray for it and the world.
I think stories could be written by combining current news stories with fiction.  If Trump says something nice about someone on the news, the fictional part could have him cursing in private about him.  If Trump presents a confident air in public,  the fictional part could show how he's secretly trembling and worrying.   

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Re: Thoughts Regarding The Stories and Storytelling
« Reply #129 on: August 30, 2018, 09:19:29 am »
I think stories could be written by combining current news stories with fiction.  If Trump says something nice about someone on the news, the fictional part could have him cursing in private about him.  If Trump presents a confident air in public,  the fictional part could show how he's secretly trembling and worrying.   

That could be done, Kerry, and it could be done satirically.  I think that a recurring character, such as a journalist, might be a good foil to Trump, as well, in the narration of these stories.
The humble, meek, merciful, just, pious and devout souls are everywhere of one religion; and when death has taken off the mask, they will know one another though the divers liveries they wear here make them strangers.
William Penn (1644-1718) from Some Fruits of Solitude (1718)