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Offline KerimF

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Re: come out of her
« Reply #30 on: November 20, 2018, 10:43:41 am »
As my spiritual son doesn't have to do anything for me though I am a human being as he is, certainly Heaven doesn't expect anything from me either.

After all, I found out that the end purpose of forcing me (since this happened without prior knowledge or will from my part) to exist in this temporary time/space realm, we call life, is giving me a chance to join Heaven if I want to and learn/discover what to do. Therefore, to me in the least, Jesus came just to help those who are also born of the Spirit get the true knowledge (The Truth, The Light) by which that can walk (if they want to) on the path (The Way) that leads to Heaven (The Life). Those who aren't born of the Spirit or their environment killed their soul, they will simply return back to their state of void; the state before their birth.

Therefore, and as an example, Trump, like any other politician who serves a ruling system, is free to say and do anything that suits his power and desires. He has just this temporary life to enjoy (as much as he can) before returning back to the state of void, for good.
And, please don't worry about any of them, Heaven let, by design, each of them be very happy and satisfied while he serves the material world for a certain period of time before returning back to void (as it is the case of all living things).


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Re: come out of her
« Reply #31 on: November 20, 2018, 04:15:49 pm »
Quote from: KerimF on November 20, 2018, 10:43:41 am
As my spiritual son doesn't have to do anything for me though I am a human being as he is, certainly Heaven doesn't expect anything from me either.
That you know of. . . .

I believe each of us has a purpose, a purpose freely chosen by each of us and not imposed; and Heaven expects us to accomplish whatever that is. 

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After all, I found out that the end purpose of forcing me (since this happened without prior knowledge or will from my part) to exist in this temporary time/space realm, we call life, is giving me a chance to join Heaven if I want to and learn/discover what to do. Therefore, to me in the least, Jesus came just to help those who are also born of the Spirit get the true knowledge (The Truth, The Light) by which that can walk (if they want to) on the path (The Way) that leads to Heaven (The Life). Those who aren't born of the Spirit or their environment killed their soul, they will simply return back to their state of void; the state before their birth.
How could anyone force you to incarnate in this time/space?   I believe you chose to and have now forgotten.   How can you achieve your purpose if you forgot about it and now say someone or some force has put you into into this time/space?   This unique purpose has something to do with what John called the "white stone".   


Rev 2:17 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it. 

The heart when purified resembles a diamond (so say the Buddhists).  The original purpose of each person is manifested through the heart and I cannot know it just as others cannot know mine.   

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Therefore, and as an example, Trump, like any other politician who serves a ruling system, is free to say and do anything that suits his power and desires. He has just this temporary life to enjoy (as much as he can) before returning back to the state of void, for good.
And, please don't worry about any of them, Heaven let, by design, each of them be very happy and satisfied while he serves the material world for a certain period of time before returning back to void (as it is the case of all living things).
I am not sure I can agree with you on this.   Trump seems out of place; and he can be removed if he missteps.  I've been watching him.   
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Re: come out of her
« Reply #32 on: November 20, 2018, 08:47:08 pm »
Quote from: Kerry on November 20, 2018, 04:15:49 pm
That you know of. . . .
I believe each of us has a purpose, a purpose freely chosen by each of us and not imposed; and Heaven expects us to accomplish whatever that is. 

I meant by "certainly Heaven doesn't expect anything from me either" that Heaven/God doesn't NEED anything from me.
But each of the living things, including the humans who are born of the flesh only, has a role to play for the material world. The embedded instructions in their living bodies guide them to achieve, during their temporary existence, the purposes for which they are created (while they believe they are free ;) ).
 
Quote from: Kerry on November 20, 2018, 04:15:49 pm
How could anyone force you to incarnate in this time/space?   I believe you chose to and have now forgotten.   How can you achieve your purpose if you forgot about it and now say someone or some force has put you into into this time/space?   This unique purpose has something to do with what John called the "white stone".   

Rev 2:17 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it. 

The heart when purified resembles a diamond (so say the Buddhists).  The original purpose of each person is manifested through the heart and I cannot know it just as others cannot know mine.   

For instance, I used hearing the statement "I believe you chose to (come into this life) and have now forgotten" also from many Muslim friends!
To me, by the WILL of Heaven/God only, not mine, I was brought into this life to have a chance of deserving being a son/child of Heaven {Matthew 5:45}.
 

Quote from: Kerry on November 20, 2018, 04:15:49 pm
I am not sure I can agree with you on this.   Trump seems out of place; and he can be removed if he missteps.  I've been watching him.

It seems you didn't notice the word power in "...that suits his power ", actually it is the power of those whom he serves.
And Jesus was clear on this point; Satan is the World's King, in God's plan.
Indeed, in reality and we like it or not, the top followers of Satan around the world, supported by servants, have all the means to control their peoples. They control them as groups and individuals as well and anytime they see necessary. These World's Elite are above the rules/Laws they create in the name of a god, or lately, in the name of democracy (so that "The People" only gets the blame always... right?).
And please don't tell me you believe in the existence of "We, The People". It is just a modern image of another man-made non-existent god/ruler. In reality, even "We, The Family" is rather hard to exist ;) Could you imagine the case of millions of families :D Anyway, it is okay if someone, unlike I, did meet in a way "We, The People", because in this case he SHOULD also believe in the existence of this one entity formed by millions.
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Re: come out of her
« Reply #33 on: August 11, 2019, 05:44:22 pm »
come out of her = Babylon = physicality and materiality = go from carnal to spiritual = via google see[nothing is solid/everything is energy] - twinc
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Re: come out of her
« Reply #34 on: August 11, 2019, 07:41:51 pm »
Quote from: twinc on August 11, 2019, 05:44:22 pm
come out of her = Babylon = physicality and materiality = go from carnal to spiritual = via google see[nothing is solid/everything is energy] - twinc

If Babylon = physicality and materiality = go from carnal to spiritual  does that mean suicide?  How can we escape from physical existence except by ending life, our own life?  How is suicide spiritual?
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Re: come out of her
« Reply #35 on: August 12, 2019, 06:14:02 am »
Quote from: HOLLAND on August 11, 2019, 07:41:51 pm
If Babylon = physicality and materiality = go from carnal to spiritual  does that mean suicide?  How can we escape from physical existence except by ending life, our own life?  How is suicide spiritual?



what is required is a change of perception[thinking] that is why it is necessary to google as requested - twinc
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Re: come out of her
« Reply #36 on: August 12, 2019, 07:37:21 am »
Quote from: twinc on August 12, 2019, 06:14:02 am


what is required is a change of perception[thinking] that is why it is necessary to google as requested - twinc
A change in thinking?  Or is action needed? 

Revelation 1:3 Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.

Here is a commandment:

Revelation 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

I would say if and when anyone hears that heavenly voice, he needs to obey. 
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Re: come out of her
« Reply #37 on: August 12, 2019, 10:33:31 am »
Quote from: Kerry on August 12, 2019, 07:37:21 am
A change in thinking?  Or is action needed? 

Revelation 1:3 Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.

Here is a commandment:

Revelation 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

I would say if and when anyone hears that heavenly voice, he needs to obey.




there are a lot of crazy people claiming to hear heavenly voices and claiming inspiration and guidance - twinc
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