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Re: Act III
« Reply #30 on: September 17, 2018, 09:00:47 am »
Could the Vice President be a bigger target of the investigation than the President?    If so, it would be somewhat  reminiscent of how Vice President Agnew resigned before President Nixon. 

As I've scanned through the articles brought up by Google, I can see why Pence is laying low.  It is not merely a lack of backbone in his being quiet.  He may be under considerable legal jeopardy himself.  Trump should have went with Christie as Vice President, I think, but Christie has had his own legal problems and manifest deficiencies in character.
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Re: Act III
« Reply #31 on: September 18, 2018, 09:38:29 am »
As I've scanned through the articles brought up by Google, I can see why Pence is laying low.  It is not merely a lack of backbone in his being quiet.  He may be under considerable legal jeopardy himself.  Trump should have went with Christie as Vice President, I think, but Christie has had his own legal problems and manifest deficiencies in character.
I think he is a sneaky guy and quite the hypocrite too.
   

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Re: Act III
« Reply #32 on: September 18, 2018, 07:03:29 pm »
I think he is a sneaky guy and quite the hypocrite too.
   

I would agree, Kerry, that Pence's silence in the face of Trump's antics can be based in sneakiness.  Pence though is very much the hypocrite much like his supposed evangelical supporters who've had their faith erode over the years as it became more and more political.  Pence is "acting out" in his own way showing the irrelevance and departure of Christian values from the Conservative right.  What is interesting is that doctrinal and moral purity does not count for much anymore.  It is only the short term politics.

I wonder why supposed evangelicals are so concerned about packing the courts with supposed Conservative justices, but there is little thought that these same justices may be very hostile to Christian morality in its broader terms such as justice for the poor and care, or rather, stewardship of the environment.  The poisoning of morality and of the environment is something going hand in hand . . .   :(
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Re: Act III
« Reply #33 on: September 19, 2018, 01:49:53 am »
Hi Friends

I was sick since about a week. Now, I start recovering.

@Holland,

From your last reply #23, it seems you believe that what I write here reflects, in a way or another, what we may call Syrian politics or alike.
But the Syrian politics agrees on whatever you say about the Western democracies :)
After all, the high class in Syria has no choice but to serve the most powerful one in the world (otherwise some of their top members will have to be replaced and this is not hard to do in the name of freedom and democracy). So, the Syrian political actors have to also fool their people and let them believe that what is happening to them since March 2011 (and what will happen) is natural (though, in reality, prepared since many decades).

I may say that our main difference is that you don’t mind believing in some powerful rich men (via their privileged servants/speakers) while I don’t trust ANY of them :)... Jesus wasn’t kidding about the rich man (a member of the high class).
But if it happens that one of the privileged servants revealed something and was crucified soon after (not necessarily on a cross ;) ) I would be sure that he was telling the truth... though it, in turn, will be faded quickly.

Naturally, the crucial job of the modern World’s Elite (mainly in the new empires) is to convince their people first that they are not real powerful to apply the slavery of minds on them. So I believe what you said:

“The power of an independent media and of other actors within the society would soon discover the clandestinity within Western democracies.  Look to what is happening to Trump?...”

D. Trump?! He keeps enjoying the role of presidency as instructed by his big bosses who own USA (besides too many parts in the world... just have a look at their military bases installed almost everywhere).

And... what happened to G. Bush when he was instructed to play the naïve ignorant kid in order to fool his loyal American troops and send them to Iraq for any goal but protecting the American people and/or making them wealthier?
Our dear ignorant Bush was re-elected by another free election ;)

About ending the fanatic radical Judaism and Islam, I am afraid it is impossible as long they prove being good/effective tools on the hands of the World’s Elite (most of them live in USA and claim being Christian!) to spread, on request, wars and chaos anywhere in the world (including USA if necessary). (But it is better for someone living in USA not to believe this). For example, no one will tell you, there, that most new Mosques in Syria were donations from the Christian West (mainly from America) and their Muslim allies in Middle East (as Saudi). Please don’t be surprised. The new Israel cannot also survive for too long if not funded continuously by the Christians on power, living in USA and Europe. The new Israel is actually the biggest American military base planted in the center of the world, dressed as civil (every exported Jew to it had/has to agree and sign that he is an Israeli soldier before any other civil title he may have). During the war in Syria, Israel and Al-Qaeda are on one side, after all they both serve the same headquarter (lately the new American bases installed in the north-east and the south east of Syria also train more Muslim mercenaries while supporting and protecting their remaining groups). Anyway, it is okay if you have no idea about this and you can forget it.

Please note that I am just presenting facts (which, I understand, may not be so if seen from America). And it is non-sense to me to blame anyone about anything because facts are facts and all of them are in God’s plan since before Creation. Thanks to the Holy Ghost, I accepted in me, I was able discovering one fact after another so that I can live in the light of knowledge; no confusions, no doubts and no fears.

In brief, as long you see in me a Syrian and not just Kerim, I am afraid you cannot take seriously what I may say. This explains why I don’t try giving details about how I was able knowing this and that... to save other's time ;) Jesus was born among Jews. Was Jesus a Jew? Of course He wasn’t; and because He wasn’t a Jew the honourable Jewish Elders had to save their nation, Israel, by killing Him.

Every person is free to belong to any system. But, in my case, I can’t see myself belonging, by my own will, to any system (of any sort) and, at the same time, live the divine unconditional love towards all others without risking being a traitor :D

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Re: Act III
« Reply #34 on: September 19, 2018, 09:19:47 am »
Hi Friends

I was sick since about a week. Now, I start recovering.

Good that you're feeling better, KerimF.

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@Holland,

From your last reply #23, it seems you believe that what I write here reflects, in a way or another, what we may call Syrian politics or alike.
But the Syrian politics agrees on whatever you say about the Western democracies :)
After all, the high class in Syria has no choice but to serve the most powerful one in the world (otherwise some of their top members will have to be replaced and this is not hard to do in the name of freedom and democracy). So, the Syrian political actors have to also fool their people and let them believe that what is happening to them since March 2011 (and what will happen) is natural (though, in reality, prepared since many decades).

I may say that our main difference is that you don’t mind believing in some powerful rich men (via their privileged servants/speakers) while I don’t trust ANY of them :)... Jesus wasn’t kidding about the rich man (a member of the high class).

I think that we can agree on that.  I do not think that the wealthy elites of the world are homogeneous but are composed of warring factions within the bourgeoisie.  I understand the Syrian elites to be divided on religious lines.  There are the Alawites, the Druze, the Sunni and the Shia.  Furthermore, geographical location has some bearing.  There are the bourgeoisie that are centered around Damascus and are involved in Syrian industry and trade to the East.  Then there are the bourgeoisie that are centered around Aleppo and are concerned about the Mediterranean trade and tourism.  All of these actors are different in that they make money in different ways.  In making money in different ways they have a different relationship to political power from the others.  All this is contrary to the possibility that there is a single wealthy elite that rules over all.  Actually, there are many elites in conflict with each other.

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But if it happens that one of the privileged servants revealed something and was crucified soon after (not necessarily on a cross ;) ) I would be sure that he was telling the truth... though it, in turn, will be faded quickly.

The elites in Jesus' time were at war with each other.  There was the conflicts between the Pharisees and the Sadducees, and the conflict between the pro-Roman and anti-Roman elites.

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Naturally, the crucial job of the modern World’s Elite (mainly in the new empires) is to convince their people first that they are not real powerful to apply the slavery of minds on them. So I believe what you said:

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“The power of an independent media and of other actors within the society would soon discover the clandestinity within Western democracies.  Look to what is happening to Trump?...”

This is, also, an instance of a war within the elites.  In this case it is media elites against sections of the financial elites that support Trump.

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D. Trump?! He keeps enjoying the role of presidency as instructed by his big bosses who own USA (besides too many parts in the world... just have a look at their military bases installed almost everywhere).

I doubt that few people can tell Trump what to do.  He is so psychologically self-willed that he would not permit be instructed by anyone.

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And... what happened to G. Bush when he was instructed to play the naïve ignorant kid in order to fool his loyal American troops and send them to Iraq for any goal but protecting the American people and/or making them wealthier?
Our dear ignorant Bush was re-elected by another free election ;)

Actually, G.W. Bush was not that intelligent.  His foolishness was not an act.  I would agree that he tended to follow what his advisers recommended to him.

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About ending the fanatic radical Judaism and Islam, I am afraid it is impossible as long they prove being good/effective tools on the hands of the World’s Elite (most of them live in USA and claim being Christian!) to spread, on request, wars and chaos anywhere in the world (including USA if necessary). (But it is better for someone living in USA not to believe this). For example, no one will tell you, there, that most new Mosques in Syria were donations from the Christian West (mainly from America) and their Muslim allies in Middle East (as Saudi).

The religious jihad of Islam existed centuries before the elites of the West appeared and so the chaos and wars that exist in the Middle East are caused by the people living in those areas.  Given that Islam still accepts slavery as being part of Sharia, that means that all populations, including Muslims, must suffer slavery in one form or another.

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Please don’t be surprised. The new Israel cannot also survive for too long if not funded continuously by the Christians on power, living in USA and Europe. The new Israel is actually the biggest American military base planted in the center of the world, dressed as civil (every exported Jew to it had/has to agree and sign that he is an Israeli soldier before any other civil title he may have). During the war in Syria, Israel and Al-Qaeda are on one side, after all they both serve the same headquarter (lately the new American bases installed in the north-east and the south east of Syria also train more Muslim mercenaries while supporting and protecting their remaining groups). Anyway, it is okay if you have no idea about this and you can forget it.

This sounds like Syrian politics again.  This does not explain the creation of Israel and the 1967 Israeli-Arab War.  The Israeli bourgeoisie would like closer relations with the Muslims and has made inroads among the Turks and the Egyptians, but there is no union of political purpose between them.

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Please note that I am just presenting facts (which, I understand, may not be so if seen from America). And it is non-sense to me to blame anyone about anything because facts are facts and all of them are in God’s plan since before Creation. Thanks to the Holy Ghost, I accepted in me, I was able discovering one fact after another so that I can live in the light of knowledge; no confusions, no doubts and no fears.

KerimF, you will always remain a Syrian.  You have too much of the worldview that comes out of that region as far as I can tell.  I do accept the fact that you are seeking to reach beyond the worldview of the Middle East, and on that I think that it is admirable.

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In brief, as long you see in me a Syrian and not just Kerim, I am afraid you cannot take seriously what I may say. This explains why I don’t try giving details about how I was able knowing this and that... to save other's time ;) Jesus was born among Jews. Was Jesus a Jew? Of course He wasn’t; and because He wasn’t a Jew the honourable Jewish Elders had to save their nation, Israel, by killing Him.

Every person is free to belong to any system. But, in my case, I can’t see myself belonging, by my own will, to any system (of any sort) and, at the same time, live the divine unconditional love towards all others without risking being a traitor :D


Jesus was a Jew but he was, also, a reality that went beyond nationhood and culture.  He was the Word that became flesh and dwelt among us and that we have seen his glory(John1:14).  In this sense, the ultimate meaning of who he is cosmic and not merely local.  Those who are his followers are invited to be the same.
The humble, meek, merciful, just, pious and devout souls are everywhere of one religion; and when death has taken off the mask, they will know one another though the divers liveries they wear here make them strangers.
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Re: Act III
« Reply #35 on: September 21, 2018, 03:26:08 am »
Good that you're feeling better, KerimF.

Thank you

I think that we can agree on that.  I do not think that the wealthy elites of the world are homogeneous but are composed of warring factions within the bourgeoisie.  I understand the Syrian elites to be divided on religious lines.  There are the Alawites, the Druze, the Sunni and the Shia.  Furthermore, geographical location has some bearing.  There are the bourgeoisie that are centered around Damascus and are involved in Syrian industry and trade to the East.  Then there are the bourgeoisie that are centered around Aleppo and are concerned about the Mediterranean trade and tourism.  All of these actors are different in that they make money in different ways.  In making money in different ways they have a different relationship to political power from the others.  All this is contrary to the possibility that there is a single wealthy elite that rules over all.  Actually, there are many elites in conflict with each other.

On these days, almost all conflicts around the world (mainly the biggest or international ones) are artificial. The common factor to all these well-prepared and supervised conflicts is that their victims are the common people (civilians, troops and mercenaries) but not the men in charge of their systems (with the exceptions of a very few scapegoats). I am afraid that, to see this, one should be a real free independent person looking for the truth without the need to judge anyone. On the other hand, the money's worshipers are interested solely in knowing truths that give them profits and avoid seeking the truths that may give them trouble or let them lose things (as compensations). In other words, the ability to discover a hidden truth is not about intelligence but about one's interest instead.

The elites in Jesus' time were at war with each other.  There was the conflicts between the Pharisees and the Sadducees, and the conflict between the pro-Roman and anti-Roman elites.

At that time and in many centuries afterwards, the world's Elite were not evolved enough yet as the today's ones are who got the talent to better divide their peoples (thanks to the hi-tech) and put them in balanced camps. Then they play the real enemies before their divided masses in order to better control them; that is to let some of them live in peace and the rest live wars as they see good to their businesses. What is even much worse than dividing peoples, is that, after replacing Communism by Terrorism on 9/11/2001, millions of kids (victims of pre-emptive wars) have been raised, under the eyes of all intelligence agents, to play the Muslim terrorists in the "War on Terror" series.

This is, also, an instance of a war within the elites.  In this case it is media elites against sections of the financial elites that support Trump.

Do you mean that the media is run by immortal powerful angels :D
We like it or not, the media (as anything else) has to be run by mortal men looking for survival as long as possible. They are certainly not disciples of Jesus to sacrifice themselves by revealing any truth that would seriously affect the authority of their high class ;) You may like believing that there are many classes (two in the least) in real conflict as the media likes its audience to believe. I am afraid that if this is real, USA will soon destroy itself; but don't worry, and as I said earlier, the American people deserve being entertained in various way... and the episodes (almost daily) of the political conflicts are not bad at all ;)

I guess you agree with me that to make a great movie, the roles of the principal actors have to be opposite as possible. Otherwise, the movie would be rather boring ;)

I doubt that few people can tell Trump what to do.  He is so psychologically self-willed that he would not permit be instructed by anyone.

If you didn't tell me this view which, I suppose, is also shared by millions of Americans (besides the billions around the world), I would start to worry about D. Trump for not being able anymore to keep playing his very difficult given role.
What I like in America is that in the name of freedom and democracy, the nation can be ruled by a dictator while pretending being ignorant, idiot or even insane :D Of course this dictator is just a great actor hired by the real top decision makers (who are controlling the main resources of the nation while being served and protected by their well-paid various forces).   

Actually, G.W. Bush was not that intelligent.  His foolishness was not an act.  I would agree that he tended to follow what his advisers recommended to him.

I admire great actors ;) Sorry, I never met, in person, a real fool/insane person; please tell me if you did.
But, I had the chance to have private conversations with many ones who were great in playing foolishness; though each of them had his own reasons. They let me hear their real stories after I promised them many times that whatever they tell me will be for my own knowledge only.   

The religious jihad of Islam existed centuries before the elites of the West appeared and so the chaos and wars that exist in the Middle East are caused by the people living in those areas.  Given that Islam still accepts slavery as being part of Sharia, that means that all populations, including Muslims, must suffer slavery in one form or another.

You are right. But Islam proved being a powerful system (as of Pharaohs though based on a god, called Allah, as presented by Mohammad Al-Kuraishi) in the far past only. Since a few centuries, modern systems were born and claimed being Christian. The last one who saw the light is known now as the American System. The two previous ones were of France and England which were MASTERING America. After USA independence, it was natural that its Elite (Black and White) had a common dream... enslaving the new generations of their old European masters. In brief, they knew how to use France and England to get rid of the Osman Empire (headed from Turkey). Then, they advised the German Nazis to unify Europe even by force so that USA and UE could oppose better the coming Communism. Only too late, our dear Nazis realised that they were used to get rid of the two greatest powers (France and England) and give a solid pretext for their American fellows to play the saviours. Since then the European systems have had no choice but being submitted TOTALLY to their masters in America. And as you will see, Terror of Islam will soon replace the Nazis of WW2 to re-destroy Europe, always in series "War on Terror". Obviously, if everything will go on as planned, Europe will be re-saved after its destruction by... ;)


This sounds like Syrian politics again.  This does not explain the creation of Israel and the 1967 Israeli-Arab War.  The Israeli bourgeoisie would like closer relations with the Muslims and has made inroads among the Turks and the Egyptians, but there is no union of political purpose between them.

Sorry, the Syrian politics convinces the people in Middle East that Israel is a powerful independent racist nation.
You never hear on the Syrian news that it is just an American military base.
This is not all, the Israelis on power in Palestine are even presented, around here, as being the MASTERS of the world and control, therefore, the American system! This is non-sense, but this what the men in charge of the systems in Middle East are instructed to do.
Between WW1 and WW2, Jews were presented as being equivalent to dogs (see Hollywood movies in that period of time). Then, these same Jews became humans but powerless and even homeless and, also via Hollywood, the world was urged to help them. Soon after defeating Europe (mainly France and England) it was time to install the big military base whose permanent main mercenaries were chosen among the Jewish people only. And, as the foreign Islamist mercenaries of ISIS started invading other's lands while killing and stealing in the name of Allah, the foreign Jewish mercenaries (exported to Palestine from all around the globe) were also given the right to kill and steal in the name of Moses' God (the Promised Land). I pity the foreign Jewish people in Palestine who had to live about 70 years (so far) in a state of continuous alert just to serve the businesses of the world's Elite (claimed being Christian).


KerimF, you will always remain a Syrian.  You have too much of the worldview that comes out of that region as far as I can tell.  I do accept the fact that you are seeking to reach beyond the worldview of the Middle East, and on that I think that it is admirable.

I can't stop you, or anyone else, seeing me a Syrian or alike.
And, I know it is somehow hard to you to believe that a person could be no more a son of the world (in any way) after he became a son of Heaven.

Jesus was a Jew but he was, also, a reality that went beyond nationhood and culture.  He was the Word that became flesh and dwelt among us and that we have seen his glory(John1:14).  In this sense, the ultimate meaning of who he is cosmic and not merely local.  Those who are his followers are invited to be the same.

You said Jesus was a Jew. Apparently He was so; as I look a Syrian to you no matter what I say ;)
But Jesus couldn't be a real Jew, speaking practically. In fact, after providing the full updated teachings that humans, born of the Spirit, need to know, Judaism became a thing of the past. But since those who are created to serve the material world (by building and destroying it) need certain systems to organize them, there is no reason not to let the old Judaism (of the Promised Land), as the old Islam (of the Jihad Sharia), be one of them.


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Re: Act III
« Reply #36 on: September 21, 2018, 11:38:55 pm »
I heard  on the radio Trump saying what a "fine" man Kavanaugh was.  "Oh yes," I said to myself, "you also told us what a good person Manafort was after he was convicted in court of crimes."    I suppose if Trump says Kavanaugh is a "fine" person, that could  mean he's guilty of something.     

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« Reply #37 on: September 24, 2018, 09:27:12 am »
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On these days, almost all conflicts around the world (mainly the biggest or international ones) are artificial. The common factor to all these well-prepared and supervised conflicts is that their victims are the common people (civilians, troops and mercenaries) but not the men in charge of their systems (with the exceptions of a very few scapegoats). I am afraid that, to see this, one should be a real free independent person looking for the truth without the need to judge anyone. On the other hand, the money's worshipers are interested solely in knowing truths that give them profits and avoid seeking the truths that may give them trouble or let them lose things (as compensations). In other words, the ability to discover a hidden truth is not about intelligence but about one's interest instead.

At that time and in many centuries afterwards, the world's Elite were not evolved enough yet as the today's ones are who got the talent to better divide their peoples (thanks to the hi-tech) and put them in balanced camps. Then they play the real enemies before their divided masses in order to better control them; that is to let some of them live in peace and the rest live wars as they see good to their businesses. What is even much worse than dividing peoples, is that, after replacing Communism by Terrorism on 9/11/2001, millions of kids (victims of pre-emptive wars) have been raised, under the eyes of all intelligence agents, to play the Muslim terrorists in the "War on Terror" series.

This sounds, KerimF, like viewing the world in an exclusively Syrian lens.  I do not know how you can inwardly sustain it.  The religious wars in Syria have lasted for centuries not only involving the peoples who live there but other nations outside of it.  Those other peoples would be the Ottoman Turks, the Mongols, the Persians, the Egyptians, the French and the British.  All of these peoples came onto a land that was racked by war for centuries and sought to impose a temporary armistice.  The internal Muslim wars have always seem to spread to other areas.

The world's elites, at war with each other, are not concerned about domination.  At best they are concerned about containment.  If Syrians are killing Syrians, and if that's what Syrians want to do to each other, so be it if it's lasted for centuries.  But the terror and killing needs to be contained to Syria and Muslim lands and not to be spread to other lands.  If members of the world's elites want to make a profit on this, they are merely doing the same profiteering that has been going on in Syria for centuries.

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If you didn't tell me this view which, I suppose, is also shared by millions of Americans (besides the billions around the world), I would start to worry about D. Trump for not being able anymore to keep playing his very difficult given role.
What I like in America is that in the name of freedom and democracy, the nation can be ruled by a dictator while pretending being ignorant, idiot or even insane :D Of course this dictator is just a great actor hired by the real top decision makers (who are controlling the main resources of the nation while being served and protected by their well-paid various forces).   

I admire great actors ;) Sorry, I never met, in person, a real fool/insane person; please tell me if you did.
But, I had the chance to have private conversations with many ones who were great in playing foolishness; though each of them had his own reasons. They let me hear their real stories after I promised them many times that whatever they tell me will be for my own knowledge only.

The problem with this view remains that there are different gradations and opposing forces within the various elites or bourgeoisie.  Present-day conspiracy theories fail to take account of human nature that persists in conflict even when one is a member of a particular social class.  If we consider Trump, we must remember that most of the members of his class have rejected him.  He is not acceptable to Palm Beach society which would be considered the summit of the American bourgeoisie social scene.

Trump is suffering from a form of dementia.  If you look at his tweets, there is a disturbing pattern of his language that, though manipulative, lacks coherence.   

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You are right. But Islam proved being a powerful system (as of Pharaohs though based on a god, called Allah, as presented by Mohammad Al-Kuraishi) in the far past only. Since a few centuries, modern systems were born and claimed being Christian. The last one who saw the light is known now as the American System. The two previous ones were of France and England which were MASTERING America. After USA independence, it was natural that its Elite (Black and White) had a common dream... enslaving the new generations of their old European masters. In brief, they knew how to use France and England to get rid of the Osman Empire (headed from Turkey). Then, they advised the German Nazis to unify Europe even by force so that USA and UE could oppose better the coming Communism. Only too late, our dear Nazis realised that they were used to get rid of the two greatest powers (France and England) and give a solid pretext for their American fellows to play the saviours. Since then the European systems have had no choice but being submitted TOTALLY to their masters in America. And as you will see, Terror of Islam will soon replace the Nazis of WW2 to re-destroy Europe, always in series "War on Terror". Obviously, if everything will go on as planned, Europe will be re-saved after its destruction by... ;)

To North American and European readers, this makes no sense and must be considered irrational.

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Sorry, the Syrian politics convinces the people in Middle East that Israel is a powerful independent racist nation.
You never hear on the Syrian news that it is just an American military base.
This is not all, the Israelis on power in Palestine are even presented, around here, as being the MASTERS of the world and control, therefore, the American system! This is non-sense, but this what the men in charge of the systems in Middle East are instructed to do.
Between WW1 and WW2, Jews were presented as being equivalent to dogs (see Hollywood movies in that period of time). Then, these same Jews became humans but powerless and even homeless and, also via Hollywood, the world was urged to help them. Soon after defeating Europe (mainly France and England) it was time to install the big military base whose permanent main mercenaries were chosen among the Jewish people only. And, as the foreign Islamist mercenaries of ISIS started invading other's lands while killing and stealing in the name of Allah, the foreign Jewish mercenaries (exported to Palestine from all around the globe) were also given the right to kill and steal in the name of Moses' God (the Promised Land). I pity the foreign Jewish people in Palestine who had to live about 70 years (so far) in a state of continuous alert just to serve the businesses of the world's Elite (claimed being Christian).

One could look at it another way.  Perhaps Jews have been killed too many times in other lands and need to make a stand in their own original homeland.  Maybe the conflicts they are involved in are religious wars.  Maybe they are not the aggressors or the victims but simply combatants among the world's other combatants.

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I can't stop you, or anyone else, seeing me a Syrian or alike.
And, I know it is somehow hard to you to believe that a person could be no more a son of the world (in any way) after he became a son of Heaven.

You said Jesus was a Jew. Apparently He was so; as I look a Syrian to you no matter what I say ;)
But Jesus couldn't be a real Jew, speaking practically. In fact, after providing the full updated teachings that humans, born of the Spirit, need to know, Judaism became a thing of the past. But since those who are created to serve the material world (by building and destroying it) need certain systems to organize them, there is no reason not to let the old Judaism (of the Promised Land), as the old Islam (of the Jihad Sharia), be one of them.

But Jesus was a Jew.  He was also the Son of Man and the Son of God, the Alpha and the Omega, the Word that became flesh and dwelt among us and that we have seen his glory.  Let us honor Jesus as is his due and let us honor the people he came from.  Our meaning in him is bound up in the meaning of Israel and its place among the nations.
The humble, meek, merciful, just, pious and devout souls are everywhere of one religion; and when death has taken off the mask, they will know one another though the divers liveries they wear here make them strangers.
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Re: Act III
« Reply #38 on: September 25, 2018, 07:59:01 am »
Will Trump win a second term?   That may depend on who the Democrats nominate.   Putin would support a Democrat if he (or she) was a better puppet than Trump,  and that means the Democrat would win.    ;D



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Re: Act III
« Reply #39 on: September 25, 2018, 09:16:08 am »
This sounds, KerimF, like viewing the world in an exclusively Syrian lens.  I do not know how you can inwardly sustain it.  The religious wars in Syria have lasted for centuries not only involving the peoples who live there but other nations outside of it.  Those other peoples would be the Ottoman Turks, the Mongols, the Persians, the Egyptians, the French and the British.  All of these peoples came onto a land that was racked by war for centuries and sought to impose a temporary armistice.  The internal Muslim wars have always seem to spread to other areas.

You are right, there is no region in the world, along history, that didn't live horrible wars and serious conflicts; I guess America is not an exception.
But, during my life time in Syria and till Obama showed up on TV in March 2011 to open the Terror Show in it, Syrians were very proud for living in one of the safest countries in the world; day and night, on any road and street, even for kids and women. If you know any tourist who had the chance to visit Syria before March 2011, he/she will confirm this well-known truth (though forgotten thanks to the Nazis-like propaganda since March 2011).

I know you do believe what you tell me about Syria but could I ignore what I witnessed personally and believe what the news says ;)
For instance, to start the Terror Show, this simply needed hiring a few snipers to shoot unarmed protesters (usually young). This tactic was used first in Daraa town (close to Jordan), then in some other cities. Then, based solely on the cruel video scenes of the snipers' victims, Obama was instructed, while the USA ambassador was in Damascus!, to accuse the Syrian president as being the evil superman, dictator, who kills his powerless people. For instance, one sniper in Daraa shot his young brother by mistake; he surrendered afterwards because he accepted the well-paid job to help his young brother getting the high studies he wished have. This clever simple tactic gave the Syrian government a solid pretext (before the Syrian people) to withdraw all national forces from most parts in Syria (including my city Aleppo). This, in turn, helped thousands of well-armed foreign mercenaries (holding Al-Qaeda flags) to occupy without resistance many neighbourhoods in many Syrian cities (excluding the ones by the Mediterranean sea). Also, various groups of the Allah black flags were able to take over and occupy almost all Syrian towns and villages (at the borders and around the cities). Yes, at a certain time (I don't remember when exactly), about 95% of the Syrian land was controlled by the Islamist groups. At that time, the American administration (via its U.N.) classified these groups as being terrorists and declared that it was time to save Syrians from them (as Europeans were saved from Nazis). Naturally, the Syrian people had to live (as in Iraq after year 2003) all sort of attacks from terrorists (supported by Obama's moderate rebels) and from their national army as well while running after the Islamist mercenaries (much like in WW2, when Europe was destroyed by both; Nazis and its saviours).

I didn't flee (though I live near the hot line between the two sides) because I like to witness personally if Jesus is all-knowledge or not, when he says:

"That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it."

God let me born on the Gospel's land, called Syria now. And it happened that the world's gates of hell was opened against it, since March 2011, by the most powerful nations (America then Russia) for money and power (even the local system had no choice but being involved too, as it is the case for all other systems in the world, mainly the European ones that are directly submitted to their powerful saviours while pretending independence).

Anyway, it doesn't matter if you believe me or not because you have to believe what suits your life better ;)

The world's elites, at war with each other, are not concerned about domination.  At best they are concerned about containment.  If Syrians are killing Syrians, and if that's what Syrians want to do to each other, so be it if it's lasted for centuries.  But the terror and killing needs to be contained to Syria and Muslim lands and not to be spread to other lands.  If members of the world's elites want to make a profit on this, they are merely doing the same profiteering that has been going on in Syria for centuries.

Yes, Syrians are killing Syrians now as Americans were killing Americans when they were controlled by France and Britain (I am not sure about Spain).
Since March 2011, Syrians has been also attacked by multi-national foreign mercenaries (holding the black flags of Allah) who were exported to Syria, under the eyes of all intelligence agents, from not less than 80 countries.
The Modern Terror cannot be spread anywhere in the world without being funded with billions of dollars (not just millions). Sorry, do you really think that poor/common people, in any region in the world, can have the means to attack seriously any well-protected high class?! Yes, in movies (and now on the news) this is possible to happen. Please remember, behind any so-called revolution or conflict, there are many rich/powerful sides fuelling it.

The fact is that, as long world's peoples have to believe that psychopaths can also be jealous and attack others at random because of jealousy, they have no choice but believing any fairy tale, as being true and real, if approved by one of the most powerful system (and proved by audio/video materials as it became the norm). 
 
The problem with this view remains that there are different gradations and opposing forces within the various elites or bourgeoisie.  Present-day conspiracy theories fail to take account of human nature that persists in conflict even when one is a member of a particular social class.  If we consider Trump, we must remember that most of the members of his class have rejected him.  He is not acceptable to Palm Beach society which would be considered the summit of the American bourgeoisie social scene.

Trump is suffering from a form of dementia.  If you look at his tweets, there is a disturbing pattern of his language that, though manipulative, lacks coherence.   

To North American and European readers, this makes no sense and must be considered irrational.

Even if all societies, among the American people, will reject Trump, he is protected by the owners of USA who are the most powerful and richest in the world. The irony is that their American people, in general, live under the mercy of banks ;)
I mean, as long Trump is doing well in the international endless series "War on Terror" (introduced with a great success on 9/11/2001), no one of the world's big bosses has any interest to replace him. And, I will not be surprised if, by a free democratic election as always, he will be re-elected for a second term (unless there will be a greater actor to play his very difficult role). 

One could look at it another way.  Perhaps Jews have been killed too many times in other lands and need to make a stand in their own original homeland.  Maybe the conflicts they are involved in are religious wars.  Maybe they are not the aggressors or the victims but simply combatants among the world's other combatants.

Religious wars?! Saudi Arabia (of Al-Qaeda Sharia) which was created by American corporations after WW1, had to be always (though under the table) a close ally to Israel (an America military base dressed civil). And I understand it is hard for you to believe that what are known as Israeli-Arab wars were also artificial ones; without which the existence of the military base Israel couldn't be justified and approved by U.N.
 
Religious wars?! The troops, so-called Christian, of the American Evangelists on power in USA live side by side with the Islamist mercenaries in many parts in Syria and give them all supports they need under the pretext... saving the Syrian people.

Religious wars?! As I mentioned earlier, the fanatic radical Israelis and the fanatic radical Islamists in the south of Syria live also side by side while taking care of each other as good brothers do.

But if you see from America that wars in Middle East are religious, you have no choice but believing they are ;)

But Jesus was a Jew.  He was also the Son of Man and the Son of God, the Alpha and the Omega, the Word that became flesh and dwelt among us and that we have seen his glory.  Let us honor Jesus as is his due and let us honor the people he came from.  Our meaning in him is bound up in the meaning of Israel and its place among the nations.

Sorry, to my knowledge, Jesus, himself, didn't honour the people he came from. Instead he says clearly:

"Verily I say unto you, Among them that are born of women there hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist: notwithstanding he that is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he."

But everyone is free to honour Jesus while ignoring some of his sayings that don't give any profit, if not worse :D