Author Topic: The Donkey (Read 644 times)

Kerry · « **on:** June 12, 2023, 06:13:03 am »

I am a little shy about sharing this story; but I will since I think it shows how great and wonderful the Love of God is. It's so hard to believe, I don't mind in the least if people think I'm a bit nuts.

I've talked before about my friend who was in prison when his girlfriend found out she was pregnant. I told him she could come visit me, and she did. She was very honest about the situation and told me she was thinking of having an abortion. I thought her a little selfish when she said she couldn't bear thinking of someone else adopting it -- if she couldn't have it, she thought it better to abort it. Behind that "selfishness" however, I could see she wanted the child, perhaps desperately.

I told her not to worry, that she could move in with me and her boyfriend could move in when he got out of prison. She did that, and she had a baby girl. I was quite happy at how that worked out. I'll get to how the donkey comes into the picture later, but let me skip forward now. He did move in when he got out; but it didn't last long. He moved out; and then she moved out. I have not seen her or the baby since; but I did run into him a few months ago and he gave me money, saying he owed it to me. I didn't remember that! But how wonderful that he remembered it and wanted to settle the debt. I had been worrying that maybe he had to pay child support and might be angry with me over talking her out of the abortion; but he wasn't.

Now for the donkey when it showed up at the birth of the baby. Shortly after the baby was born, I woke up knowing there was an angel in the house. It woke me up trying to read my mind while I was asleep. I woke up and asked what it wanted to know. It wanted to know about the baby. I also know how to open my mind to let angels read it easily, so I did that.

It turned out the angel showed up to check on the baby. Had it be born as planned? Was everything okay? I never knew there were angels who did this; and I pressed the angel. Now I wanted to know something. Who was this angel really? I wanted to see him.

It turned out it was the donkey which helped make room for Jesus when he was born. People may debate whether the souls of animals can be immortalized; but I was seeing one which had become immortal was still serving Jesus. Yes, even animals can have their rewards.

It also taught me how angels like to do their good deeds secretly, not wanting to take credit. That donkey loved Jesus and wouldn't have told me he was even around if I had kept sleeping and he could have read my mind. Oh what love that donkey had for all babies along with his love for Jesus.

It also showed me how God wants all of His creation to live in harmony and love. I think I had a glimpse of the world to come. This made me love God more too. Perhaps I err, but I figure if an idea makes me love God more, it's probably right. For sure, it's better than the idea I had before about things.

I wish you all could have met that donkey.

Try to remember what Jesus said about sparrows. I love this song because it shows me how God cares about everything.

Helen · « **Reply #1 on:** June 12, 2023, 11:40:00 am »

I love that song too.

I’ve heard the debates about whether our animals will be there in heaven.
I sure hope so. We’ve had wonderful dogs and other animals in our life .
Their souls came from God , therefore will go back to God.

As there are animals mentioned in the book Rev in heaven I can’t see why not.

But, the subject is far too deep for my tiny brain !

Dave · « **Reply #2 on:** June 12, 2023, 12:34:02 pm »

. That reminded me of the angel and the talking donkey, the donkeys ability to see what the ‘prophet’ didn’t see is a good reminder to me that HE who created all things can use all things to get our attention.
Some of the best on FB for me, are the donkey rescue pictures.

TrevorL · « **Reply #3 on:** June 12, 2023, 05:14:08 pm »

Greetings Kerry and Helen,

Quote from: Helen on June 12, 2023, 11:40:00 am

I'’ve heard the debates about whether our animals will be there in heaven. I sure hope so. We’'ve had wonderful dogs and other animals in our life. Their souls came from God, therefore will go back to God. As there are animals mentioned in the book Rev in heaven I can'’t see why not. But, the subject is far too deep for my tiny brain!

The animals in the Book of Revelation are symbolic. Dreams can seem to be powerful at times, but we need to distinguish between reality and imagination. I do not believe in immortal souls, especially immortal donkey souls.
Psalm 49:6-12 (KJV) 6 They that trust in their wealth, and boast themselves in the multitude of their riches; 7 None of them can by any means redeem his brother, nor give to God a ransom for him: 8 (For the redemption of their soul is precious, and it ceaseth for ever:) 9 That he should still live for ever, and not see corruption. 10 For he seeth that wise men die, likewise the fool and the brutish person perish, and leave their wealth to others. 11 Their inward thought is, that their houses shall continue for ever, and their dwelling places to all generations; they call their lands after their own names. 12 Nevertheless man being in honour abideth not: he is like the beasts that perish. 13 This their way is their folly: yet their posterity approve their sayings. Selah. 14 Like sheep they are laid in the grave; death shall feed on them; and the upright shall have dominion over them in the morning; and their beauty shall consume in the grave from their dwelling. 15 But God will redeem my soul from the power of the grave: for he shall receive me. Selah. 16 Be not thou afraid when one is made rich, when the glory of his house is increased; 17 For when he dieth he shall carry nothing away: his glory shall not descend after him. 18 Though while he lived he blessed his soul: and men will praise thee, when thou doest well to thyself. 19 He shall go to the generation of his fathers; they shall never see light. 20 Man that is in honour, and understandeth not, is like the beasts that perish.

The Bible teaches that only some will be raised from the dead at the return of Jesus, some to everlasting life and some rejected at the Judgement Seat:
Daniel 12:2-3 (KJV): 2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt. 3 And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever.
2 Timothy 4:1,6-8 (KJV): 1 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the living and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom; 6 For I am now ready to be offered, and the time of my departure is at hand. 7 I have fought a good fight, I have finished my course, I have kept the faith: 8 Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that day: and not to me only, but unto all them also that love his appearing.

Kind regards
Trevor

Kerry · « **Reply #4 on:** June 13, 2023, 07:41:39 am »

Quote from: Dave on June 12, 2023, 12:34:02 pm

. That reminded me of the angel and the talking donkey, the donkeys ability to see what the ‘prophet’ didn’t see is a good reminder to me that HE who created all things can use all things to get our attention.
Some of the best on FB for me, are the donkey rescue pictures.

I would like to have a talk with the animal Jesus rode on.

Kerry · « **Reply #5 on:** June 13, 2023, 08:48:49 am »

Quote from: Helen on June 12, 2023, 11:40:00 am

I love that song too.

I’ve heard the debates about whether our animals will be there in heaven.
I sure hope so. We’ve had wonderful dogs and other animals in our life .
Their souls came from God , therefore will go back to God.

As there are animals mentioned in the book Rev in heaven I can’t see why not.

But, the subject is far too deep for my tiny brain !

Let me start with Noah.

When all flesh was corrupted in the days before the Flood, some species were more corrupted than others. They got divided into clean and unclean. Ravens are unclean and doves are clean. The raven flew away and didn't come back while the dove came back with the olive branch.

Why were some animals corrupted? Not through their own sins. Rather they absorbed the hate and sins of the evil men of the time. Man was given dominion over everything, and the animals known later as unclean suffered more.

Now let us see how the animals as well as Noah and his sons made a covenant with God.

Genesis 9:8 And God spake unto Noah, and to his sons with him, saying,
9 And I, behold, I establish my covenant with you, and with your seed after you;
10 And with every living creature that is with you, of the fowl, of the cattle, and of every beast of the earth with you; from all that go out of the ark, to every beast of the earth.

The clean animals agreed to continue to be sacrifices in order to help people. Such sacrifices were not totally adequate in all things, but they did restore people to becoming clean. The blood of animals is good only for the physical life in human blood in the way they are similar. After the humans became ritually clean, they were supposed to repent spiritually by correcting any defects on their hearts. It is worth noting that any animal that struggled prior to being sacrificed was not sacrificed. The animal had to be willing to return to God. Injured or imperfect animals also could not be sacrificed. Just as we humans can lose our bearings when suffering, so too can animals -- and I am convinced a suffering animal might not remember to return to God if distracted by the suffering.

The unclean animals bore some of the results of men's sins which had not been repented of. Perhaps the people didn't know they had sinned; perhaps they were lying to themselves. Thus the unclean animals were assuming some of the earthly burden of men's sins. This lightened the burden on people making it easier for them to remain sane enough to repent.

The two goats show this too although both goats would have been ritually clean; but one was sacrificed to God while the other was driven away. I think that goat was driven over a cliff -- thus reminding us Judas. I see Jesus bearing the sins we repent of while Judas bears the ones we don't. His was a terrible fate, but perhaps someday he'll have a reward. Note that Jesus didn't try to stop him but told him to do whatever he was going to do and do it quickly.

Paul says all creation was groaning in a way Jesus stopped.

Romans 8:22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.

I am glad the Temple system with its animal sacrifices got removed. We read where the prophets warned Israel that they were abusing the system, that their animal sacrifices were abominations unacceptable to God. Were they evil or stupid? I don't know; but they had the idea they could sin and sin again; and then they could kill an animal and everything would be fixed. The animals had suffered needlessly too long because of this attitude; and Jesus changed it.

A new connection was possible too between Heaven and earth -- that men and women could be ritually clean without the need of killing an animal.

Now then, what about the ravens and Elijah? Ever wonder why it was okay for Elijah to eat food served up by ravens?

It seems that some "unclean" animals were willing to serve God and could hear Him.

I Kings 17:2 And the word of the Lord came unto him, saying,
3 Get thee hence, and turn thee eastward, and hide thyself by the brook Cherith, that is before Jordan.
4 And it shall be, that thou shalt drink of the brook; and I have commanded the ravens to feed thee there.
5 So he went and did according unto the word of the Lord: for he went and dwelt by the brook Cherith, that is before Jordan.
6 And the ravens brought him bread and flesh in the morning, and bread and flesh in the evening; and he drank of the brook.

I see Elijah in a somewhat similar role with Jesus there. I think he was willing to exercise lawful dominion over the earth and all the animals -- loving dominion -- so the ravens were able to be tamed when God spoke to them. Part of the "groaning" of creation was changed. The ravens were no longer unclean the way they had been.

Now what about our pets, our cats and dogs? Both are carnivores, thus unclean. But I say they can benefit from associating with any member of the Body of Christ. I do not see God as "saving" animals -- no, I think that is our job. I would think if you and Dave had dogs and other wonderful animals, you can expect to see them again some day. Dogs may start off as "unclean" animals, but love can make them clean again.

I had a problem with the first cat I had. He was extraordinary in many ways and loved me tremendously; but he would turn his head aside or want to go away if I started to talking to him about Jesus. I feel sure he knew full well what I was talking about too since we had a wonderful mental connection. I won't go into that now in much detail, but my house was infested for a while with some nasty non-physical things -- I don't think they were demons since they didn't seem intelligent or powerful enough -- they were like mindless pests, like non-physical gnats or something. I ignored them until I saw they were bothering the cat. I lost patience then and told him he could catch and eat them. Cats are unclean animals, so catching and eating these unclean non-physical things wouldn't harm him. When I told him that, he immediately let me know he understood by waving a paw in the air as if he was catching things. So why the reluctance to listen to me talk about Jesus?

Jesus fixed many things with the animals but not everything. My cat was still suspicious about Jesus. The problem didn't get resolved until some time after he died. The mental connection between us led me to find him in a very nasty place -- dark and muddy. I rescued him and told him to search out Jesus. He also pranked me another time but appearing to me as a giant version of himself. Eventually though, I got to see him in the arms of Jesus. I was so relieved and happy. I think that happened because I loved that cat and he loved me.

Kerry · « **Reply #6 on:** June 13, 2023, 08:52:45 am »

Quote from: TrevorL on June 12, 2023, 05:14:08 pm

Greetings Kerry and Helen,

I apologize, Trevor, for my tardiness in responding. Please have patience with me as I am tired at the moment. I do want to answer you fully however, so didn't want to give a brief but inadequate answer.

Heartsong · « **Reply #7 on:** June 13, 2023, 10:31:56 am »

Quote from: Kerry on June 12, 2023, 06:13:03 am

I am a little shy about sharing this story; but I will since I think it shows how great and wonderful the Love of God is. It's so hard to believe, I don't mind in the least if people think I'm a bit nuts.

I've talked before about my friend who was in prison when his girlfriend found out she was pregnant. I told him she could come visit me, and she did. She was very honest about the situation and told me she was thinking of having an abortion. I thought her a little selfish when she said she couldn't bear thinking of someone else adopting it -- if she couldn't have it, she thought it better to abort it. Behind that "selfishness" however, I could see she wanted the child, perhaps desperately.

I told her not to worry, that she could move in with me and her boyfriend could move in when he got out of prison. She did that, and she had a baby girl. I was quite happy at how that worked out. I'll get to how the donkey comes into the picture later, but let me skip forward now. He did move in when he got out; but it didn't last long. He moved out; and then she moved out. I have not seen her or the baby since; but I did run into him a few months ago and he gave me money, saying he owed it to me. I didn't remember that! But how wonderful that he remembered it and wanted to settle the debt. I had been worrying that maybe he had to pay child support and might be angry with me over talking her out of the abortion; but he wasn't.

Now for the donkey when it showed up at the birth of the baby. Shortly after the baby was born, I woke up knowing there was an angel in the house. It woke me up trying to read my mind while I was asleep. I woke up and asked what it wanted to know. It wanted to know about the baby. I also know how to open my mind to let angels read it easily, so I did that.

It turned out the angel showed up to check on the baby. Had it be born as planned? Was everything okay? I never knew there were angels who did this; and I pressed the angel. Now I wanted to know something. Who was this angel really? I wanted to see him.

It turned out it was the donkey which helped make room for Jesus when he was born. People may debate whether the souls of animals can be immortalized; but I was seeing one which had become immortal was still serving Jesus. Yes, even animals can have their rewards.

It also taught me how angels like to do their good deeds secretly, not wanting to take credit. That donkey loved Jesus and wouldn't have told me he was even around if I had kept sleeping and he could have read my mind. Oh what love that donkey had for all babies along with his love for Jesus.

It also showed me how God wants all of His creation to live in harmony and love. I think I had a glimpse of the world to come. This made me love God more too. Perhaps I err, but I figure if an idea makes me love God more, it's probably right. For sure, it's better than the idea I had before about things.

I wish you all could have met that donkey.

Maybe a stupid question but what color was the donkey? I mean donkeys are different colors aren't they.

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I love this song because it shows me how God cares about everything.

She sings that song with so much feeling and emotion.

Kerry · « **Reply #8 on:** June 13, 2023, 10:55:11 am »

Quote from: Heartsong on June 13, 2023, 10:31:56 am

Maybe a stupid question but what color was the donkey? I mean donkeys are different colors aren't they.

No, I love that question since it prompts me to correct or to clarify something I wrote. I wrote that I saw it, but what I saw was "as through a glass darkly." I did not get a really good picture. Some visions I was supposed to get were sharp and in brilliant colors; and often the colors tell me something about where I am. Visiting dark places tells me I'm not in the best of places. While I am sure I was talking to the donkey, I am less sure about the visualization. But it was a lovely warm gray.

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She sings that song with so much feeling and emotion.

It is like Heaven is opening a door for mw. I am grateful to God and to her for what she did to make the world a better place.

Heartsong · « **Reply #9 on:** June 13, 2023, 11:47:43 am »

Quote from: Kerry on June 13, 2023, 10:55:11 am

No, I love that question since it prompts me to correct or to clarify something I wrote. I wrote that I saw it, but what I saw was "as through a glass darkly." I did not get a really good picture. Some visions I was supposed to get were sharp and in brilliant colors; and often the colors tell me something about where I am. Visiting dark places tells me I'm not in the best of places. While I am sure I was talking to the donkey, I am less sure about the visualization. But it was a lovely warm gray.

Can visions be confused with what someone might think is a memory or remembering a dream? There have been times that I have seen things in my mind's eye, if that makes sense, and I say, where did that come from? I also wonder, am I remembering a dream or was that a memory or something else? But it sure was nice and gave me a good feeling and it was a good place. A beautiful place. But the thing is I never forget what I saw.

Okay, I'm going to mention something else. I was on a bed, maybe a hospital bed. There were three or four I'll say people but only I could see them and they were standing at the foot of the bed and I was asked, are you ready to go? I said, what about my children? One of them said, they will come later. I felt sadness that I was leaving my children and reluctantly went with them.

Another time and I think I've mentioned this before. I was up above this huge waterfall and it was surrounded by what looked like a paradise. It felt like I was floating or flying up above that waterfall. But I also went down because I was drawn to something. A little cricket of all things. .....Everything there was so closely connected in every way even the water falling from the waterfall. There was like communication between everything including with me. That was a beautiful place and I didn't want to leave but the time came when I had to leave.

There is one more where I volunteered for a certain mission. I won't go into that. I've probably said too much already that is unbelievable. I might have to delete this....

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It is like Heaven is opening a door for mw. I am grateful to God and to her for what she did to make the world a better place.

Yes, I know what you mean.

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