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paralambano · « **Reply #60 on:** April 22, 2023, 07:47:30 am »

Trevor - ^

You're not interested in my assessment. Too deep into the French and frogs somehow. The deeper you're in, the greater the disappointment. Adjustment follows adjustment follows adjustment and so on and so forth . . . . since you then become a modern-day prognosticator, not a living person in John's day meant to see the signs, the things that must soon come to pass for them. Jesus said:

So when you see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination that causes desolation,’[a] spoken of through the prophet Daniel—let the reader understand— 16 then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. 17 Let no one on the housetop go down to take anything out of the house. 18 Let no one in the field go back to get their cloak. 19 How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers! 20 Pray that your flight will not take place in winter or on the Sabbath. 21 For then there will be great distress, unequaled from the beginning of the world until now—and never to be equaled again.

but you totally miss that the Romans abominated the Temple. Titus hung his army images upon the eastern Gate of the Temple, brought his totemic images into it, sacrificed an ox, sheep and pig there, and then burned the whole place to the ground.

Jesus had this as a time like no other. It won't be repeated, ever. Yet you somehow still await it a time like no other.

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TrevorL · « **Reply #61 on:** April 22, 2023, 05:00:11 pm »

Greetings again paralmbano,

Quote from: paralambano on April 22, 2023, 07:47:30 am

You're not interested in my assessment. Too deep into the French and frogs somehow. The deeper you're in, the greater the disappointment. Adjustment follows adjustment follows adjustment and so on and so forth . . . . since you then become a modern-day prognosticator, not a living person in John's day meant to see the signs, the things that must soon come to pass for them.

Concerning the frogs and the French, we have always considered that the French Revolution brought about many changes to society and their thinking and the zeitgeist is a product of this among the population and the ruling governments and leaders. I am interested in Daniel 8 where the symbols for the Medo-Persians is the Ram and that of the Greeks is the Goat. This is different to the 2nd and 3rd Beast of Daniel 7 which also represents these nations. If you look up history, evidently these two nations used these symbols to represent their Kingdom. Especially with Greece, as Alexander the Great was known as Alexander the Goat, and the Aegean Sea is the Goat Sea. It is interesting that both these animals are sacrificial animals in a context which speaks of the Temple and the Daily sacrifice.

I would be interested in your view of (but not a long winded AD 70 concoction)
Ezekiel 38:13 (KJV): Sheba, and Dedan, and the merchants of Tarshish, with all the young lions thereof, shall say unto thee, Art thou come to take a spoil? hast thou gathered thy company to take a prey? to carry away silver and gold, to take away cattle and goods, to take a great spoil?
Here is another one of my modern day prognostications. I believe that when Russia and their confederacy including the EU nations invade the Middle East, the modern day merchant power will be the UK and the Commonwealth countries. As such the UK had to leave the EU and our fellowship had anticipated that Brexit would be successful before the result and vote. I am sure that those in AD 70 would not have understood this either.

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Jesus said: So when you see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination that causes desolation,’[a] spoken of through the prophet Daniel—let the reader understand— 16 then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. 17 Let no one on the housetop go down to take anything out of the house. 18 Let no one in the field go back to get their cloak. 19 How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers! 20 Pray that your flight will not take place in winter or on the Sabbath. 21 For then there will be great distress, unequaled from the beginning of the world until now—and never to be equaled again.
but you totally miss that the Romans abominated the Temple. Titus hung his army images upon the eastern Gate of the Temple, brought his totemic images into it, sacrificed an ox, sheep and pig there, and then burned the whole place to the ground.
Jesus had this as a time like no other. It won't be repeated, ever. Yet you somehow still await it a time like no other.

I reject what you say, as I totally believe that "the Romans abominated the Temple". Yes, these things WERE fulfilled in AD 70, and the abomination that made desolate was the Roman Army which destroyed Jerusalem and the Temple.

What I suggest is that you do not like to quote is the parallel Luke record which speaks of a long period of time after the captivity of Jerusalem:
Luke 21:20-24 (KJV): 20 And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh. 21 Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto. 22 For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled. 23 But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people. 24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.
And this period of time is an allusion to and quoting of the 2300 years of Daniel 8:13-14 which had a partial fulfilment in AD 1967 when the reversal of the captivity occurred and the Jews retook Jerusalem and the Temple Mount. God has a plan and purpose and it relates to events at "The Time of the End", possibly starting in AD 1917 or before and includes the clearing of the Holy Land in 1917, the establishment of the State of Israel in 1948 and the retaking of Jerusalem in 1967, and these are all significant events and milestones in preparation for the return of Jesus, the Battle of Armageddon, and the establishment of the Kingdom of God upon the earth, with Jesus as King / Priest over a converted natural Israel and the nations subjugated and learning the ways of God.

Kind regards
Trevor

paralambano · « **Reply #62 on:** April 22, 2023, 08:00:06 pm »

Trevor - ^

You're likely not really interested in what I believe Tarshish is but it ain't anything as it exists today, neither are the lions since all prophecy and vision ceased with the fall of the "holy city", none other than Jerusalem in 70 AD. Look at the breadth of the Roman Empire then, Trevor, west. Name your place within it.Yet, you have prophecy and vision going beyond the holy city by millennia. Ezekiel didn't make these names up in his day to signify any place but what existed back then, not today.

I won't tell you what the frogs are about since you're not ready to listen like Tarshish but that croak, croak, French Revolution stuff you wrote is ridiculous stuck between John's bookends. It had a very specific meaning in John's age and anyone faithful hearing it then would know who, what, where it meant.

I'm telling you that you would drop your pre-millennialism if you knew what actually happened in those years. Jesus wasn't kidding about a time never like it. Things in both Jerusalem and Rome in that day. Parallel theologically, one a demonic parody of the other with breath, images, unnatural occurences, signs, things you haven't dreamt of in your modern-day fantasies. All done then. Many, many things.

As for your stretching the times of the Gentiles over 2,000 years past the time of distress that will never again be, this was fulfilled in the Jewish War which went 1600 stadia (specific meaning by place) and the drinking of blood of (specific fulfillment in John's day along with everything else he wrote specifically) which you're clueless about because you know nothing of those years like most pre-millennialists.

The "they" is apostate Israel who were killed and enslaved until the First Jewish War (times of the Gentiles) ended. You've transgressed the warning given at the end of John's book by adding to it 2,000 years plus for all the things he wrote which must shortly come to pass. And in it he has the New Jerusalem appearing and the Marriage Supper of the Lamb shortly coming to pass. Must shortly come to pass for John's 7 churches then. You force this to happen in the future. This is another reason I don't respect your views. Your time of distress is ridiculously stretched "until" millennia (times of Gentiles fulfilled) when it's the enslavement and slaughter by the Gentiles (Romans) which is the distress coming shortly to pass.

Too, there's nothing Jesus says in the Olivet which extends the time. He says when you, no, stop fantasizing Trevor, not you, Jesus's disciples (you were not one of them), the ones he's addressing see Jerusalem encompassed, when his disciples see Judah taken captive into all nations (precisely what happened as a result of the fall of Jerusalem (97,000 sold into slavery), many slaughtered. Again, it's Roman soldiers who tread and they tread all over the Land. All done in that day.

Luke has Jesus telling his disciples;

Be always on the watch, and pray that you may be able to escape all that is about to happen, and that you may be able to stand before the Son of Man.”

This after he mentions the times of the Gentiles fulfilled. Your eschatology is all mixed up,Trevor.

Plus, more importantly, you are asking the wrong questions.

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TrevorL · « **Reply #63 on:** April 23, 2023, 06:50:23 am »

Greetings again paralmbano,

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You're likely not really interested in what I believe Tarshish is but it ain't anything as it exists today, neither are the lions since all prophecy and vision ceased with the fall of the "holy city", none other than Jerusalem in 70 AD.

I was interested enough to read all of your Post, but not interested enough to answer your detail, which seems to be very obscure and mostly missing, despite the assurance that if I only knew, I would become a Preterist. The above summarises sufficiently your Preterist perspective, that all prophecy and vision ceased in AD 70. I am quite happy for you to state your position in this thread, and I have stated my position and others may decide for themselves. There are most probably many more Preterists in the world, even your unique variety, than those who hold my view.

I like to watch our Australian Rural Program, called Landline. I had dreamed of becoming a farmer, but never made the grade, but ended up on a 2 acre hobby farm in the midst of a city and worked in heavy industry. Australia is celebrating Anzac Day next Tuesday, and a special segment of Landline was speaking of the Australian horses that were used during WW1 and especially for the charge of the light horse at Beersheba. These were very hardy horses, and were farmers' stock horses, used to the dry conditions in Australia. They were eminently suitable for endurance in the desert below Beersheba. The general breed that had been developed in Australia, and especially in New South Wales acquired the name Waler, adapted from the "Wales" of NSW. I was strongly reminded of Daniel 11:40 where the term "the time of the end" occurs. As the commentator said, that these horses helped to turn the tide against the Ottoman power and bring WW1 to an end. The real benefit was to open the Holy Land for the return of the Jews. The paddock next door has had a variety of horses over the years, but not Walers.

Kind regards
Trevor

paralambano · « **Reply #64 on:** April 23, 2023, 07:29:54 am »

Trevor - ^

While your personal info is noteworthy, I don't see what it has to do with the time of the end. Anything you come up with has to be fanciful since all prophecy and vision ceased with the destruction of the Herodian Temple in 70 AD. You claim what I write is fanciful, yet you agree that the Temple was abominated, the very center of Jewish life. I wouldn't call that fanciful. That could only happen if God wasn't pleased with Judah. There's a key you're missing which will clear up a lot for you.

Again, I wrote that just one generation of Jews was wicked, that in Jesus' day. They paid in that day for the blood of Christ by their own, the "let his blood be upon us". No Jew since then pays like this. They aren't to be seen as wicked. This is what comes out of futurism for some since some don't believe the debt's already been paid. No one should be persecuting anyone.

You appear not to be interested in preterist detail. No wonder it's obscure to you. Pre-millennialists don't know what went on outside of Acts and the letters in the time between the ascension and 70 AD. John did. So did his readers but for pre-millennialists, it's a blank. The "beast", the "dragon", the image that speaks, the "darkness" all meant specific things in that day, yet it's somehow applied across millennia when Jesus included the fulfillment of the times of the Gentiles among the time of the end things his very disciples then would see. That's why John wrote that way.

Your eschatology will continue to be off-base until you at least accept John's bookends by faith even if you don't understand or agree with how preterists read them. Then you need to be willing to look into the past to see how it could be so. You haven't done this yet.

You appear to agree that Titus abominated the Temple. I could have given you something much worse of his there than what I gave of what he did there. That you also don't know. I take it then that you don't believe in a repeat of this in our future since this was yet future to the NT writers, none of which mention a yet-to-happen Temple destruct in their day as if it were past in their day.

Figured out the meaning of the stadia number I gave yet? How people drank blood? John knew. So did his readers.

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TrevorL · « **Reply #65 on:** April 23, 2023, 08:44:40 am »

Greetings again paralmbano,

Quote from: paralambano on April 23, 2023, 07:29:54 am

Anything you come up with has to be fanciful since all prophecy and vision ceased with the destruction of the Herodian Temple in 70 AD.
You appear to agree that Titus abominated the Temple.

Yes the Roman army under Titus destroyed the Temple. I am not interested in the rest of your Post. You seem to be content to go on a lot about nothing.

Kind regards
Trevor

paralambano · « **Reply #66 on:** April 23, 2023, 02:02:30 pm »

Trevor - ^

You didn't refute anything I wrote, especially what I gave of Luke:

20 And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh.

21 Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto.

22 For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.

23 But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people.

24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.

25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;

26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.

27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.

28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.

29 And he spake to them a parable; Behold the fig tree, and all the trees;

30 When they now shoot forth, ye see and know of your own selves that summer is now nigh at hand.

31 So likewise ye when ye see these things come to pass, know ye that the kingdom of God is nigh at hand.

32 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled.

33 Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away.

34 And take heed to yourselves lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares.

35 For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth.

36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.

The you there are Jesus' disciples who had asked in Matthew 24:3 -

Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?

but no, Trevor extends this to well, Trevor, and beyond, by millennia, never mind Jesus' disciples who had asked about what Trevor already admitted to me, the end of the Jewish world (heaven and earth). Which is to say, the end of the Old Covenant Age with the destruction of the Temple in 70 AD. Paul expected the end in his day as did all others. He said that the Law was already vanishing then prior to 70 AD. Thry also believed that Jesus would return then just as he says in his Olivet. And he did.

You're having great difficulty explaining John's bookends by Russia, the French Revolution, kinds of horses, some big battle on some plain, the Church of Rome, etchetera, etchetera which you appear to have tomes to write about as other pre-millennialists (some published) do but explaining John's bookends and the fact that Jesus included the fulfillment of the times of the Gentiles as something his disciples would witness, you leave the page blank. Then you stretch 70 weeks over millennia. That you have much to say about since well, it's much easier to fantasize then try to understand how what John wrote and what Jesus' followers in that day rightly expected to be consummated in their day, not some distant future they could hardly imagine.

You appear to want to study the whole of history past 70 AD and ignore that sliver of a single generation from the ascension to the destruction in 70 AD. All those years you can write about but the interregnum? If you knew, you could write so much more about that than what you fantasize now.

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TrevorL · « **Reply #67 on:** April 23, 2023, 06:15:28 pm »

Greetings again paralmbano,

Quote from: paralambano on April 23, 2023, 02:02:30 pm

You didn't refute anything I wrote, especially what I gave of Luke:
20 And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh.
21 Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto.
22 For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.
23 But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people.
24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.
but no, Trevor extends this to well, Trevor, and beyond, by millennia, never mind Jesus' disciples who had asked about what Trevor already admitted to me, the end of the Jewish world (heaven and earth). Which is to say, the end of the Old Covenant Age with the destruction of the Temple in 70 AD. Paul expected the end in his day as did all others. He said that the Law was already vanishing then prior to 70 AD. Thry also believed that Jesus would return then just as he says in his Olivet. And he did.

Jerusalem was besieged and the Temple destroyed and the old covenant age came to an end in AD 70. You continue to ignore Luke 21:24 where it clearly states that the Jews would be led away captive and Jerusalem would be trodden down of the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles is fulfilled. This is a quotation and allusion to the 2300 years of Daniel from BC 334-333 to AD 1967 when Jerusalem was recaptured by the Jews, fulfilling in part the times of the Gentile domination of Judah 1948 and Jerusalem 1967. All leading up to the establishment of the Kingdom of God upon the earth..

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Then you stretch 70 weeks over millennia. That you have much to say about since well, it's much easier to fantasize then try to understand how what John wrote and what Jesus' followers in that day rightly expected to be consummated in their day, not some distant future they could hardly imagine.

No, the 70 weeks prophecy was fulfilled in the era of Jesus and the Apostles. I gave an example of Isaiah 2 where a prophecy has a partial fulfilment in the day of the prophet, Uzziah's time and the earthquake, but it also predicts a future earthquake at the time of the greater fulfilment of Isaiah 2. There are many prophecies of this genre, and you fail to accept this. Jesus came in judgement in AD 70 in and though the Roman army. He did not come to establish his Kingdom in AD 70, or take the faithful living and dead to heaven or establish the Kingdom of God upon the earth in AD 70. Paul realised this 2 Timothy 4:1,6-8. The Kingdom of God will be established upon the earth when Jesus returns Isaiah 2:1-4, Daniel 2:35,44, Zechariah 14, Matthew 19:28, Acts 1:11, 3:19-21, Revelation 5:9-10. Btw, we are repeating what we both have stated previously.

Kind regards
Trevor

paralambano · « **Reply #68 on:** April 24, 2023, 07:59:41 am »

Trevor - ^

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Jerusalem was besieged and the Temple destroyed and the old covenant age came to an end in AD 70. You continue to ignore Luke 21:24 where it clearly states that the Jews would be led away captive and Jerusalem would be trodden down of the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles is fulfilled. This is a quotation and allusion to the 2300 years of Daniel from BC 334-333 to AD 1967 when Jerusalem was recaptured by the Jews, fulfilling in part the times of the Gentile domination of Judah 1948 and Jerusalem 1967. All leading up to the establishment of the Kingdom of God upon the earth..

Nope. That's not what Jesus tells his disciples. He tells them that they will see Jerusalem trodden down of the Gentiles until the time of the Gentiles is fulfilled (Jerusalem burned down, captives taken, many slaughtered).Then they'll see celestial signs, etc. All these things his disciples, those he was talking to will see to know that Jesus is returning then, not after they're dead for 2,000 plus years. Then they're to lift up their heads since their redemption draws near. And this is the point of John's bookends. All of what John wrote must shortly come to pass and what he wrote in between them is the Second Coming, the New Jerusalem descending, and the Marriage Supper of the Lamb. You ignore the time is near for John's readers in his day and Jesus telling the 7 churches in existence then that he is coming soon.

It's funny. Many today don't believe it like yourself like CS Lewis who essentially called Jesus wrong by what he said about his Second Coming:

Say what you like,” we shall be told [by the skeptic], “the apocalyptic beliefs of the first Christians have been proved to be false. It is clear from the New Testament that they all expected the Second Coming in their own lifetime. And, worse still, they had a reason, and one which you will find very embarrassing. Their Master had told them so. He shared, and indeed created, their delusion. He said in so many words, ‘this generation shall not pass till all these things be done.’ And He was wrong. He clearly knew no more about the end of the world than anyone else.”It is certainly the most embarrassing verse in the Bible. Yet how teasing, also, that within fourteen words of it should come the statement, “but of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.” The one exhibition of error and the one confession of ignorance grow side by side. (The World’s Last Night , The Essential C.S. Lewis)

Lewis does what so many do that don't believe it of that age - - what John, Paul, and all else believed back then about immanence, they go to Jesus just didn't know day and hour (marriage motif), and the 1,000 years is as a day, etc. when the overwhelming and plain evidence of the interregnum is that Jesus was truthful to his word by the warnings given. Why tell John not to seal his book because all that's in it must shortly come to pass if Jesus really didn't know it? This makes Jesus look foolish if he didn't know the time-frame even if he couldn't tell the exact day and hour. I say that Jesus told the truth to John, his disciples, and the Sanhedrin (not their distant descendants) the you standing there listening to him. They'd see him coming as God on the Glory Cloud to reap, giving blessing (taken to him) and curses (destruction of apostates). I stand on the rock of the truth of prophetic hope fulfilled, not on the sandy ground of millennia and modern-day prognosticators.

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No, the 70 weeks prophecy was fulfilled in the era of Jesus and the Apostles. I gave an example of Isaiah 2 where a prophecy has a partial fulfilment in the day of the prophet, Uzziah's time and the earthquake, but it also predicts a future earthquake at the time of the greater fulfilment of Isaiah 2. There are many prophecies of this genre, and you fail to accept this. Jesus came in judgement in AD 70 in and though the Roman army. He did not come to establish his Kingdom in AD 70, or take the faithful living and dead to heaven or establish the Kingdom of God upon the earth in AD 70. Paul realised this 2 Timothy 4:1,6-8. The Kingdom of God will be established upon the earth when Jesus returns Isaiah 2:1-4, Daniel 2:35,44, Zechariah 14, Matthew 19:28, Acts 1:11, 3:19-21, Revelation 5:9-10. Btw, we are repeating what we both have stated previously.

Nope. There's nothing in John's book or Jesus' Olivet that awaits some double-fulfillment in a distant future for John's day. Jesus is asked about the time of the end. He tells his disciples all the signs that they'll see prior to the parousia. All that is prophesied, that is, all that's written will be fulfilled in Jesus. When? When it must to shortly come to pass. This is Jesus telling John this. John, don't seal it. He's coming soon. So John writes everything which must shortly come to pass including the New Jerusalem supplanting the burned up old one. And that's in his book as well. The actual destruction if you knew where to find it.

You might see that Jesus' Kingdom is the heavenly one. We, the Church are the earthly one, but our citizenship is in heaven. Of Jesus' rule there will ever be increase as through history the nations will go up to this kingdom. The Gospel is open to all people and all will eventually find their way there.

Trevor, be happy that you believe. Your deeds will follow you into the Kingdom already established by 70 AD if approved, not being awaited in the future. You don't go to Hades like all did, either Tartarus or Abraham's bosom (Paradise) when you "die" to await entering the celestial New Jerusalem since that City's rule was already established with Jesus' Second Coming by 70 AD. Your eschatology still awaits it since the time of the end is unconsummated for you still. Limboland.

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Trevor, you need to consider the following very carefully and tell me when this happened:

This is what the Lord says: ‘If you can break my covenant with the day and my covenant with the night, so that day and night no longer come at their appointed time, 21 then my covenant with David my servant—and my covenant with the Levites who are priests ministering before me—can be broken and David will no longer have a descendant to reign on his throne. 22 I will make the descendants of David my servant and the Levites who minister before me as countless as the stars in the sky and as measureless as the sand on the seashore. (Jeremiah 33)

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TrevorL · « **Reply #69 on:** April 25, 2023, 12:56:12 am »

Greetings again paralmbano,

Quote from: paralambano on April 24, 2023, 07:59:41 am

Nope. That's not what Jesus tells his disciples. He tells them that they will see Jerusalem trodden down of the Gentiles until the time of the Gentiles is fulfilled (Jerusalem burned down, captives taken, many slaughtered).

Luke 21:20–24 (KJV): 20 And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh. 21 Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto. 22 For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled. 23 But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people. 24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.
The treading down of Jerusalem did not cease in AD 70, but has been occupied by different armies at different times for the last 2000 years, and was liberated by the Jews in AD 1967. I consider that the full duration of the "Times of the Gentiles" is from the conquest of Jerusalem by Nebuchadnezzar to the start of the Kingdom of God on earth when Jesus will rule from Jerusalem during the 1000 years.

I find the subject of the various time periods of Daniel very interesting. One key is to consider the 70 years predicted in Jeremiah's prophecy. I consider that this had two fulfillments, the first the Decree of Cyrus and the second, the completion of the Second Temple. The next clue is the Seventy Weeks prophecy. This is accepted by many to represent 490 years, based upon the day for a year principle. The same principle is applied to the 1260 years of Daniel 7, the 2300 years of Daniel 8 and other time periods of Daniel. Jesus is alluding to the various "Times" of Daniel in Luke 21:24. I have some assessment of ALL the various time periods in Daniel. It has only been recently that I have started to appreciate the three in Daniel 12, but will leave them as we do not agree with those of Daniel 7 and 8 which are more obvious. We need to understand basic Algebra before we try to solve Ordinary Differential Equations.

Kind regards
Trevor

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